Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:41:15 -0800 From: Jeffrey Blankfort jblankfort@earthlink.net
This was on the front page of Thursday's LA Times and reads like a piece "ghost written" for the paper by someone in the Zionist Propaganda Ministry. That it appears in the :LA Times which at one time was one of the few papers not under the Zionist thumb and is currently up for sale is depressing.
Despite his references to Khomeni, Ahmadinejad has never called for or threatened Israel with destruction, but truth has never been allowed to get in the away of the Zionist enterprise and it is even less likely to start now.-JB
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This is correct. Have you seen the text in Farsi? The text that has the infamous quote where Ahmadenijad allegedly called for Israel to be wiped off the map? I find it funny how the networks used that "quote" when in actuality Ahmadenijad never said the word Israel or map. The quote, as you can see in a post I have on my blog, says:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
Some translate mehr shavad and vanish from and others say it is an action verb so it is better translated wiped from. Khomeini's original text uses the word sahneh which mean a scene or a stage as opposed to safneh which reffers to pages. Whether you say stage of time or pages of time, the conclusion is the same. Ahmadenijad, to no surprise, would like to see the Zionist regime in Israel disappear to be replaced by one that recognizes the rights of Palestinians, and develops Israel into a true democracy.
Since every leading world organization, including the often antisemitic leaning UN believes that Ahmadenijad statement called for the destruction of Israel, it is rather lame of those who try to excuse him of the statement.
It reminds me of the Iraqi apologists who kept trying to convince everyone that it was the Iranians who gassed the Kurds, instead of Saddam.
Dream on.
Do not get me wrong, I am not a Ahmadenijad supporter. There is alot about the current Iranian regime that I do not support.
However, if we are going to make statements against Ahmadenijad they should be true and accurate.
The translation of what he said is simply incorrect. Even if one is correct in the claim that he wants to destroy Israel, and I am not convinced of that, then let us bring true and correct proof. The ends do not justify the means, and to misquote someone to prove something you know to be true is not honest; academically or otherwise. Do you see my point?
The rest of the non-muslim world believes it is correct.
The rest of the non-Muslim world believes that the President of Iran would like to destroy Israel and the 5.5 million Jews living there.
And that he would accept the death of 10 million muslims if that is what it came to.
Why do you assume that they are correct?
Also, this that the whole of the non-Muslim world believe that it is translated correctly is simply not true. Most of the sources I sited in my post are from non-Muslims, or rather non-Iranian. Remember Farsi is spoken by a minority of Muslims. This is not a Muslim issue, but rather an Iranian issue. The hostilities between Iran and Israel stem from Israel's training and support of the Sha's security force known as Savak. It was a brutal, and merciless organization that made the KGB look like the Mickey Mouse Club.
The facts are clear. No where in what Ahmadenijad said did he use the word Israel or map, so for him to have said "wipe Israel off the face of the map" is somewhat difficult to substantiate.
No assumption. They have proved that they are correct which means you are wrong.
Show me this proof. I have done an extensive web search on the subject. The only people who I see making proofs are those that show he did not say "Israel" or "map".
However, if you can show me actual proof that the translation is accurate then I will be willing to change my opinion.
Ahmadinejad: Israel 'will be removed'
Tehran (dpa) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Palestinians and "other nations" will eventually remove Israel from the region.
Addressing a mass demonstration in Tehran - one of many organized throughout Iran to commemorate the 27th anniversary of the Islamic revolution - he once again questioned the Holocaust "fairy tale".
"We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them," Ahmadinejad said in a ceremony marking the 27th anniversary of the Islamic revolution.
"Do the removal of Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations," the ultra-conservative president said.
http://www.bangkokpost.net/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=78985
Iran's new hard-line president called yesterday for Israel to be "wiped off the map" - the first time for many years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for the Jewish state's eradication.
The remarks by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad prompted a chorus of international condemnation.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/27/wiran27.xml
Iran leader defends Israel remark
Iran's president has defended his widely criticised call for Israel to be "wiped off the map".
Attending an anti-Israel rally in Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his remarks were "just" - and the criticism did not "have any validity".
His initial comment provoked anger from many governments, and prompted Israel to demand Iran's expulsion from the UN.
Egypt said they showed "the weakness of the Iranian government". A Palestinian official also rejected the remarks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4384264.stm
We know: he's a maniac
The people of Iran are quite aware of their predicament
November 11, 2005
iranian.com
Last week, Iran's newly elected president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, while addressing close to four thousand students at a Tehran conference entitled "The World Without Zionism," called for the unequivocal destruction of Israel. In no ambiguous terms, Ahmadinejad stated that Israel "must be wiped off the map." That evening, Ahmadinejad's comments were reported by the Iranian state-run news agency.
By the next day, the international community was bustling over the Iranian president's comments. Iranian ambassadors and diplomats were summoned to explain the words of the their president, and official condemnations of the statement were made by Kofi Annan, the United Nations Security Council members, the European Union member states, and Canada.
Chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat also distanced the Palestinian leadership from Ahmadinejad's comment, and offered, "What we need to be talking about is adding the state of Palestine to the map and not wiping Israel from the map." Israel also called for Iran to be expelled from the United Nations, with Israeli Vice-Prime Minister Shimon Peres saying that Ahmadinejad's comments flout the United Nations charter, and are "tantamount to a crime against humanity."
http://www.iranian.com/Mohyeddin/2005/November/Israel/index.html
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